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« on: January 04, 2010, 06:33:22 PM »

So great to find this site.

I have been commenting regularly over at the Calculated Risk blog about since Bear Stearns collapsed in March, 2008, under variations of this handle, "one world currency", or "yogi".   I'd like to introduce myself and my line of thinking.  I have a B.A. in Economics and a law degree (J.D) but no specific training in currency history or theory distinct from "monetary", "fiscal",  or other broader economic fields.  I've never worked in the financial "sector".  After reading CR, "The Trillion [now 2] Dollar Meltdown", "Empire of Debt", and Reggie Middleton's research, I was sold, by May 2008, on the notion that the system was facing imminent collapse, and I still think the zombies are being held up only by ever more elaborate Ponzi systems.

In thinking about solutions, or a better system after the fall, I gradually concluded that an open-source global digital currency, indexed somehow to a weighted basket of all liquid tangibles (Comex, e.g.), (initially adjusted to existing leading currencies (Forex)), denominated in numbers (unique), arbitrarily pegged at issuance then left to float free, was both inevitable and a beautiful thing.  As an open-source system, it would be forever voluntary, existing side-by-side with national currencies (and SDR's) if the market so chose.  The goal is to provide a reliable measure and store of value and reduce transaction costs for "honest brokers".

It is neither a capitalist-free market idea nor a socialist one, and I believe the politically-charged terms and the focus on a public/private distinction in Economic discussion often do more harm than good.  

I don't bring this up to claim some stake to originality, and I am happy to remain anonymous.  I merely wish to state that I arrived at very similar conclusions to what I have so far read here independently so I am thrilled to find a site of like-minded people.   (When I first realized there was no need for central bank control of currencies, I posted something like "I doubt I am the first to realize this idea, but if so I want "credit"!--It was strictly a pun.)

I had in mind an algorithm which would "value" (as accurately as could be hoped) every oft-traded (liquid) commodity (tangible) in terms of every other, perhaps factoring in other standard measures (bytes of storage, protein, vitamins, kilowatts, etc.  Every bar-coded transaction would be traceable and used to reprice, with anonymity "built back in" as much as possible. I have not yet studied the formula Mr. Grignon suggests for the initial peg and float,  which sounds like there is no need to independently price commodities (?) but these are "details".

My concern is that it be open-source, both to keep costs down and at long-last to eliminate the risk of inflation-printing by central banks and counterfeiting by pirates.  As such, I intend to take no personal financial reward from any work in developing the currency; rather, I would be interested in contributing to an endowment for a prize to anyone who might foster development and implementation-- either with theory, software, hardware...  Does any such prize already exist?
Thanks and looking forward to learning a lot here. Grin
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2010, 01:11:11 PM »

Great comments and thoughts!   Grin   I'm right with you on the open source idea.   I'm not aware of any prize, but it sounds like a fantastic idea.  I could build a website a page for such (in a few weeks as I've just moved house and have limited internet access). 

If we can sketch out some details and perhaps set-up an account for donations? then we could put out some media releases and get some real attention (hopefully).

Great to see you on here, keep posting your ideas!

-Tyler Jordan
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2010, 11:50:00 AM »

I think that:
1. Paper money and any other currency should be prohibited.
2. United States government should create fully open-source and absolutely transparent digital money system.
3. Other countries in the world legislatively must prohibit all kinds of currencies (by prohibiting I mean making digital money the only legal tender for public and private debts like paper dollar. Paper dollar will be withdrew from circulation)
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 04:29:45 PM »

1 currency now, you'll be glad to hear that an open source currency already exists.
Bitcoin.org went public in July 2010, and the Bitcoin community is growing quickly.  Here's the technical abstract which explains how this open source currency works:
http://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

You can get bitcoins by supporting the network with your CPU cycles, or you can buy bitcoins with your credit card:
https://buybitcoins.com

To get started using bitcoin, you need to download the Bitcoin client from http://www.bitcoin.org
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 09:32:50 PM »

Thanks for the info. We had another post on Bitcoin last week.  I've looked into it and the fundamentals look really good.  Just a matter of it being taken up by people, and that seems to be beginning to happen too.  Looking forward to seeing bitcoin takeoff!
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